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July 25, 2020 at 8:59 am #2103
Hi,
I have installed Delphi Sydney 10.4 with patch 1, patch 2 and patch 3.
I use many Konopka Signature VCL Controls on my projects.
These controls have been working without any problem on Delphi Rio 10.3.3.
But I have noticed that on Delphi Sydney 10.4 these controls have many problems.
I think that these problems are generated by Delphi Sydney 10.4 itself.
When I opened my project on Delphi 10.4 I have noticed some strange behaviors:
The color of the Konopka Signature VCL panels of the project’s forms have been changed from clCream to $00F3F3F3 and it is impossible to change the color to clCream at the design-time.
Also the color of the fonts of the buttons and labels of the Konopka SignatureVCL Controls has been changed from clNavy to clBlack and it is impossible to change the color of the font of the buttons and labels from clBack to clNavy at the design-time.
You can change the Color on the Object Inspector but the component color does not change.
If you change the color at the design-time of the Konopka Signature VCL Controls from the $00F3F3F3 color to the desired color it will be shown with the correct color at the run-time for some Signature Konopka VCL Controls but not for all Konopka Signature VCL Controls.
I have noticed that in some forms the TRzPanel and TRzSizePanel controls do not change the Color to clCream.
I have noticed that the shape of the hint window of the TRzBalloonHints control is changed by Delphi 10.4 with patch 2.
The size of the hint window is much bigger than the size of the hint text.Because of these annoying problems I have returned to Delphi Rio 10.3.3.
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July 25, 2020 at 11:10 pm #2104
Hi,
Unfortunately, at the moment, I do not have a solution to the issues that you (and others) are running into with 10.4. However, I do know that the display issues are occurring because the IDE is now using a custom VCL Style and not the system style, while the form designer is applying a different style.
The problem is that the controls in the library have not been modified to account for this IDE change. (Actually, Embarcadero has made no modifications to the controls since they acquired them, but that’s another story.)
Anyway, the controls are designed to adjust their appearance using the active style. At design-time (in 10.3 and earlier), the active style has always been the Windows style, but in 10.4, the active style applied to the RAD Studio application is either the Light or Dark VCL Style. As such, the KSVC controls pickup their settings from those styles at design-time.
The controls are designed such that if the Windows style is used and custom colors are chosen, then the custom colors are used. However, in the 10.4 design-time environment, the Windows style is not used, and thus the custom colors are not shown. However, if you run the application, then the controls will appear correctly at runtime. I realize that it is very disconcerting to have the design-time appearance not match what is expected.
I wish I could respond with more positive news. I’ll just close that I am extremely frustrated with the way Embarcadero has handled the components. I am investigating ways to address these issues.
Ray
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October 11, 2020 at 9:58 am #2224
Ray,
Do you have any news on this? Embarcadero support is saying it “might” be fixed in 10.4.2 but they can’t promise anything.
Thanks,
Rhett Price
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July 27, 2020 at 7:23 am #2105
Dear Ray,
Thank you very much for your explanations.
The Konopka Signature VCL Controls are the best components I have seen.
I have been using these components in all my Windows 32 and 64 bits applications.
It is a great lack of consideration what Embarcadero is doing concerning the Konopka Signature VCL Controls in Delphi 10.4.
Best Regards,
Marcelo.
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August 30, 2020 at 3:59 pm #2126
Are they any updates on a fix? It’s keeping us from releasing our software under Sydney. I’m a long time Raize user from the beginning and I can’t believe Embarcadero dropped the ball on this one.
Thanks,
Rhett Price
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September 10, 2020 at 2:01 am #2210
In addition to the color issue, the ‘ParentColor’ always reverts to False.
I set it to True, save the form, close it, re-open it and it’s back to False.
Anyone experienced this?
With regards,
Martijn
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September 14, 2020 at 9:32 pm #2217
Yes, this is also an issue. It’s driving us nuts. I’ve heard crickets from Embarcadero after filing a bug report…
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September 15, 2020 at 6:48 am #2218
I reverted to Delphi 10.3.
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September 29, 2020 at 1:06 am #2223
Thanks for the geaet package Ray,
Even worse problems here – the getit install action in my just installed 10.4 goes tells me the eula file on my recently created ISO disk (D:\radstudio_10_4_esd_99797b.gof) is in use by another process. No it isn’t ! Snapshot attached
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October 12, 2020 at 4:54 pm #2225
Anyone heard any more info on this bug?
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October 19, 2020 at 11:32 am #2229
Hi Rhett,
Unfortunately, I have not experienced this particular error with GetIt, nor have I heard of any reports. Have you contacted Embarcadero about this?
Ray
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October 19, 2020 at 11:52 am #2231
Sorry, I meant the Style issues. I have not had any problems with Getit.
Thanks,
Rhett
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October 20, 2020 at 11:07 pm #2233
Hi Rhett,
Thank you for the clarification. I’m sorry I misunderstood your post. I thought it was in response to the previous post. As for the style issues with 10.4, I really wish I could share some positive news. I’ve certainly been trying from my side, but the ball is in Embarcadero’s court as they say.
Ray
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October 21, 2020 at 2:47 am #2235
Ray,
is there a possible quick fix for this Color and ParentColor issue somewhere in the code of the library?
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November 7, 2020 at 3:55 pm #2260
Hi Martijn,
I apologize for the long delay in responding. This whole situation have been extremely frustrating and I’m tired of posting messages where I simply do not have any good answers. I know what needs to be done to the library. The problem is that Embarcadero owns the code. All I can offer at this point is for everyone to reach out to Embarcadero and let them know how important the KSVC is to your work.
Ray
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December 3, 2020 at 3:21 am #2292
Hi Ray,
I fully understand your frustration. I just noticed Embarcadero ditched the user forums… one less channel to voice our concerns.
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December 16, 2020 at 11:06 am #2306
I’m awaiting the new 10.4.2 Beta – fingers crossed Embarcadero has taken care of this issue. I’ll post here when I determine the results. Has anyone else heard about the beta?
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December 17, 2020 at 1:54 pm #2307
Everyone with an update subscription is invited to the beta: https://blogs.embarcadero.com/delphi-and-cbuilder-10-4-2-beta-invite-for-update-subscription-customers/
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December 17, 2020 at 1:58 pm #2308
Correct, just wondered if anyone had gotten a link yet (I haven’t seen one) and tried out the Raize components with it
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February 22, 2021 at 3:07 am #2366
Ray,
If you know where the problem in the code is, can you let us know so we can fix it ourselves?
with regards,
Martijn
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February 25, 2021 at 2:51 am #2378
Hi Martijn,
Unfortunately, it was not a “simple” fix, and as a result, really needed to be address in a new release. Fortunately, that is finally coming.
Ray
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February 22, 2021 at 9:45 am #2367
Hi Martijn, I have a bit of good news there. I tried the beta coming with 10.4.2 and it indeed fixed our color issues with their Beta version or Konopka controls. I believe they are still working on it and will have another list of fixes for 10.4.3 – but for now our main issue is fixed.
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November 3, 2021 at 10:20 am #2731
Hi, how can I install KSVCL 7 manually on 10.4 ??
Thanks
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November 11, 2021 at 11:51 pm #2754
Hi Alvaro,
KSVC is deployed via the GetIt Package Manager for 10.4. I’m not aware of any way to manually install KSVC.
Ray
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